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****punishment can be good for you, since going through hardships builds moral strength.
***Actively through self-denial and further self-discipline.
***Two moral strengths:
****External threats: ''Courage'' is the strength to stand up to external evils.
****internal threats: Cases where the issue of''self-control'' arises.
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**Being bad is being low
**Doing Evil is falling
** Evil is a force (Conservatives tend to see evil as something done by somebody, and this relate to the [[FFFF]] mode of somthing that try to harm us. [[User:WinSysop|Tal Yaron]] 13:10, 15 August 2012 (IDT))
The world is divided in to good and evil ([[FFFF]] style [[User:WinSysop|Tal Yaron]] 13:24, 15 August 2012 (IDT))
* To remain good in the face of evil (to "stand up to" evil), one must be morally strong.
* One becomes morally strong through self-discipline and self-denial.
* Someone who is morally weak cannot stand up to evil and so will eventually commit evil.
* Therefore, moral weakness is a form of immorality.
* Lack of self-control (the lack of self-discipline) and self-indulgence (the refusal to engage in self-denial) are therefore forms of immorality.